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  • Billing out tires

    Posted by autohausnc on September 10, 2016 at 10:00 pm

    Two part question:
    When you bill out tires, do you sell the tires as “parts”, then list a separate labor line for the mount and balance ( I currently do).
    And if you do split tires & mounting, when you track “tire sales”, do you add total tire sales (parts) or do you include the mount & balance (labor)?

    For example, how I invoice:
    Continental 255/40ZR17 $132.97
    Mount & Balance: $24.00

    Is my total tire sales $132.97 or $156.97

    Or does anybody invoice like this:

    Mount & Balance Continental 255/40ZR17: $156.97

    eeeautoservice replied 7 years, 6 months ago 26 Members · 25 Replies
  • 25 Replies
  • Tom

    Member
    September 11, 2016 at 8:05 am

    We would track that tire sale as $132.97 and the labor would go in with all other types of labor.

  • Rick White

    Member
    September 14, 2016 at 1:00 pm

    Bernard,

    I agree with Tom. The reason shops break out tire sales from other part sales is because of the different profit margins associated with tires. By breaking out the tire sales and cost from your other part sales and cost, you’re able to see what your actual profit margin is on each and adjust accordingly against your profit targets. 
    I also agree with you Bernard in breaking out the labor from the tire as it allows you to capture more revenue.
    Have an AWESOME day!
  • sako7mm

    Member
    September 14, 2016 at 1:01 pm

    We track tire as parts. We also track mounting and balance as a seperate labor!

  • bnc173

    Member
    September 14, 2016 at 1:08 pm

    We agree seperate that way your able to track overall profit for both.

  • Joseph Van syoc

    Member
    September 14, 2016 at 5:38 pm

    Same,  with the exception of trailer tires, (in which case I figure the installation in the tire price) tires are billed seperately from installation and accounted for seperately

  • Chris Corlee

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    Tires under parts, mount and balance is labor.

  • Richard Zaagman

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 2:52 pm

    Tire’s don’t get billed under parts, they are bill separately under Tires so they can be tracked separately since the GP is different than parts.

    Labor is listed separately as well so that can be appropriately tracked.

    Hope that helps.

  • Unknown Member

    Deleted User
    September 22, 2016 at 3:18 pm

    I agree with Dick. Tires are tracked as a part in a different category to be able to monitor tire GP% and also parts GP% (if they were all together, tires would skew the parts GP), and then labor is billed out as labor, the same as any other job.

  • mas-mor1

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 3:54 pm

    We operate w three separate profit centers — parts, tires and labor — separating parts and tires allows us a more accurate assessment of margins

    Mark Smith — Owner 
    Midas of Richmond 
  • Randy Lucyk

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 3:55 pm

    We are the same as Dick and Mark for the same reasons

  • Bobby Likis

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 3:59 pm

    At Car Clinic Service / PreRepair, we separate tire sales and mount & balance labor.  We also break out tire sales on our ROWriter balance sheet due to the lower GM, with a targeted GM goal of 25% GM for tire sales.  Tire sales is currently not a large part of our business. 

    Bobby Likis, Owner
    Car Clinic Service / PreRepair

  • advancedauto616

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 3:59 pm

    We break tires out as parts and labor also.  Our reasons are for profit calculations and ALSO because Massachusetts only has sales tax on parts and not labor.

  • davewoodford

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 4:01 pm

    We bill tires as parts and track as tire category. Labor is billed as mount & balance.

  • Dave Macko

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 4:02 pm

    We track Tires as separate revenue category with its own matrixed gp% (as we do with Sublet, Enviro/Supplies, Batteries, & Emission testing)- not Parts per se. Installation & balancing labour is included with total labour revenue. Ultimately you make what you make but separating categories helps keep our eye on Profit.

    Dave Macko
    Armstrong-Macko Autopro
    Chatham, On Canada
  • andre remillard

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    We do it the same way you do Tom.

  • stevebfl

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    Hi Bernard,

    We bill tires just as we do any part, and labor similar to other labor.  As was mentioned this skews the GP% on parts sales, but since it doesn’t change the money in the bank, that has never bothered me.  We work to move the GP% up continuously and whether tires are in it or not makes no difference to our internal goals.  If I am talking with other shop owners (which I am no longer) I am at a disadvantage for bragging rights.  That doesn’t bother me.  I do believe tire sales are tracked separately as I can do with any part in our Fastrack software.

    Steve

  • mikek

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 4:12 pm

    We have a separate Chart of Account code for Tires, not only the part but the labor. It allows us to keep the general repair side of the business seperated for the low profit margin of tire sales

  • Alan Ollie

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 4:16 pm

    We track it as parts/tires and labor separately.

  • Curt

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 4:22 pm

    We brake out the tires and labor separately . Also track tires separate with parts.

    Curt

  • Phil Hostetter

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 4:33 pm

    We separate the charges, tires as parts and m&b as labor. As others have noted, because of lower GP on tires, it’s good to track them separately. While there is a lower gross profit on the tires themselves, there is good gross profit per hour on tire sales if they are priced right and a fast and accurate installer is doing the work.

  • Linc

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    We account for tires a part as well as the weights and stems required. These ” parts ” are accounted for separately because the GP% benchmarks we use as goals are different for tires, parts and labor.

  • rods2105

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 5:01 pm

    We dont sell tires but use Discount Tire. We bill out normally with tires as parts and balance on labor. (and we dont track tire sales!!)  

    More of a convenience for customer.
  • Joe Fordyce

    Member
    September 22, 2016 at 6:22 pm

    We bill out separately, tires are the parts, and M/B is the labor.  I have raised the dollar amount on tire markup to cover us on the cost of wheel weights.  All other pieces like TPMS rubber valve stems and regular valve stems still get added as needed.  Tire disposal is a separate line item also.

  • John

    Member
    September 26, 2016 at 2:14 pm

    We bill the tire out as a part and track sales info. on the part and separate from all other parts. and bill Labor on its own and tracked with all labor

  • eeeautoservice

    Member
    September 28, 2016 at 4:17 pm
    At EEE (Our Auto Shop in Tracy CA ) we sell tires as parts as well. We list these items separately from labor services such as mounting, balancing, alignments, etc. If we sell used tires, we just bill the customer as labor.




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