• October 19, 2020 at 6:20 am #104210
    Randy Lucyk

    I found the following image posted on Facebook, by a janitor from a small community college.

    This is nothing new.

    The “job outlook” and “employment change” numbers for auto repair (data below the image) could cause parents some concern.

    I suspect each of us could do a better job of supporting the automotive educators and programs in our area(partial list attached, many more local (non-Natef ) programs operating all over the country)

    I hope there are future minded owner/leaders supporting this program pilot(or any of the similar opportunities in their area):


    or we could wait and let the OE dealers take the lead with opportunities like this(happening all over the country):



    and hats off to owner/operators like this(and other early adopters):




    How would You answer the question in the subject line?

    Randy Lucyk

    Midas Kalkaska

    skilled trades






    1. Natef schools 2019 pdf - Skill trades, where would you point your high school age son or daughter


    1. ASE_Natef-accredited-schools-2019.xlsx
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    October 19, 2020 at 4:07 pm #104249
    Tom Ham

    All of those look like good options. Some may be low – I think the mechanic one is low. I would recommend a mechanic career to someone who has a solid interest in cars. Then, I would caution them to shop carefully for an employer and look for one who is forward looking in all they do. If I were a tech today, I would not consider working in most shops. Too dirty, too cold, poorly equipped, too hot, too loud, disorganized, poor ergonomics, low tech, etc. I believe these are key reasons why so many have left and are leaving. I think there is nowhere near enough focus on improving the workplace for techs today.

    Tom - Shop Owner since 1978

    October 27, 2020 at 4:10 pm #104505
    William Mays, Jr.

    With the current pay and benefits issues with auto repair, i would not recommend it. Other industries (HVAC, electrical, etc) treat their employees much better than we do in auto repair.

    October 28, 2020 at 10:02 am #104551
    Andrew Pollina

    I would not recommend the automotive industry in the shape that it’s in. This industry is broken and has yet to value the technicians’ time. Long hours and difficult working conditions for little pay. Not to mention explaining to their spouses why they have a never-ending $200.00 per month tool bill.

    November 5, 2020 at 6:33 pm #111832
    Randy Lucyk

    I believe Tom hit this on the head. If your tendency’s are  such that fixing things is in your dna, and you chose to be good at it, then finding a shop that respects your talents, and has the courage to operate in a profitable manner, can create a rewarding environment.

    I tell this to techs at all levels , and few listen. I believe it is the single most important step to a better future for yourself. Not a single tech in 40 years has brought me what i describe below. Imagine how that would make you stand out in an interview.

    “Every single day you work, you will benefit greatly by tracking number of hours you work, the number of billable hours the shop billed for the work you completed that day, and the amount of labor sales associated with those hours”

    Not just look at the numbers, write them down or better yet put them into a spreadsheet. At the end of the pay periods, calculate your percentage of pay vs labor dollars sold and your hours worked vs hours sold.

    If you watch these numbers, and keep the records to present to a potential new employer, you will be light years ahead of most of the techs in the industry.

    My folks do this every single day.

    My 2 cents.

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